Again, tried to revive some of the "old" dogs for the same reasons as in the "H" & "I" litters. By breeding to Ch. Touraline's Nathan of Elcot CD, was able to again have many of the Old MSA dogs and added some Amstelhof relatives that were related to many of Pat Johnson's (Johnsondale) Dutch imports, Ch. Ward v Amstelhof and Ch. Jana v. Amstelhof. I sold pick pup in this litter, Juanita, to a couple who were to show her but have pursued other interests. I kept the male in this litter who was very "face-focused" as a young pup. Joe has sired 4 litters. Others in this litter are family companions. The pups and now adults in this litter have incredible temperaments and personality in addition to very smooth side gaits. More information about Joe and litters he has sired can be seen on his page.